Sunday, March 29, 2009

[ Noakhali Online Group ] Re: Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

I am agree with you Ms. Khaleda

Rahman

--- In Noakhali@yahoogroups.com, khaleda islam <khaleda66@...> wrote:
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>  
> Dear Sumit,
>  
> Salam O suvo sakal ! Tomar Msg porechi. Ami mirthe bolbo na. Amder desta ekhon durnite vore gieche. Kothao com, kothaeo beshi. Kintu BDR er Jowanra ja koreche ta prokash korar vasa amar nae. Bujlam tara Nipirito.......tae bole evabe amader valo officerder hotta kore..........Tomar katha jodi ami mani ......
>  
> 1) Tahole ora keno Hottar pasapasi Luttaraj koreche ?
> 2)  Keno tara Meyeder Ijjot Niye Khela Koreche??????
>  
> Ki bolbe tumi sumit,,, Pakistanira na hoe 1971 er onno deser lok chilo. Kintu nijer deser lokera ja koreche take ki bolbe tumi.
>  
> *** Protibad korar vasa aache Onek.
>  
> Tumi 1971 er katha bolecho. Bujlam. Kintu Se Prekhapot R e Prekhapot k tumi ek kore dekhona. Ota chilo Sadikarer Prosono. Nijer Ostiter Prosno. R Pak Army der sathe amader Army tulona korle vul hobe.
>  
> R ekta katha amra jani tara Vuturki nicche -KARON TARA DESH PAHARA DICCHE NIJER JIBONER JUKI NIYE.  Amra ki temon kichu korchi.....So tarato sujog ektu beshi pabe.
>  
> Valo theko sob samaye
>  
> khaleda
>  
> --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Sumit Awal <sumit@...> wrote:
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> From: Sumit Awal <sumit@...>
> Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers
> To: Noakhali@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 10:37 PM
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>
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>
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> Khaleda Apa,
>  
> Manobota niye kotha bolte gele kintu Bangladesh Army ke niye o kichu kotha bolte hoi. Amar mone hoi eta obosshoi Todonto kora uchit je sotti i ki 29 E Dec. er Election duty korar jonno dewa 7 Cr tk 25 th Feb porjonto BDR jowan der majhe dewa hoi ni naki? & arekta jinish amar mone hoi open secret je Bangladesh Army always i Govt er je kono officer theke beshi sujog subidha vog kore aasche ja kichu kichu khetre Onoitik o.
> Example hishabe ami bolte pari Ekjon Army office chaile jekono somoye "On Payment" Gari nite pare cantonment theke jate sei Army officer er dite hoi miles proti 10-15 Tk per km only. jar mane Army officer berate jacche (jehetu On Payment ta Official khetre nite hoina) tate o Ami, apni tar gari vara hishabe minimum 50tk vortuki dicchi. & monthly kotobar On Payment e gari newa jabe seta o temon mana hoi bole ami shunini.
> emon onek gulo oshongoti kintu Bangladesh e chole ashche. Jekhane amar desher LPO vukto Non-Govt. teacher ra 3/4 mash por por beton pai ta o oi beton er tk uthate ghush babod proti masher ordhek beton chole jai, jekhane amar deshe Krishok ke tar pawna tin Local MP theke kine nite hoi (as you know Mr. Falu did so last session) sekhane emon shob subidha ekta class er manush ke pete dekhle dinke din khob barbe i.
>  
> I proshonge aro ektu kotha bole nei.  1971 er Mukti juddher sutropat kotha theke? Pakistan Army & Pakistan Govt. er Sadharon Bangali bonchito, nipirito hote hote ek somoi ei khov dana bedhe suru hoi shadhikar aandolon. Somaje emon boishommo amar mone hoi karo i kammo noi.
>  
> Boishommo sudhu Khov & Ghrinar i Jonmo dei valobasha jonmo deina.
>  
> Hoitoba aapnara kew vabchen aami hoitoba BDR jowan ra ja koreche tar somorthone kotha bolchi. Kintu na tader ami somorthon kori na kintu prithibir jekono pranter itihash khuje dekhle i amra dekhte pabo je Nipirito ra jokhon ghure darai tokhon tar porinoti hoi VOYANOK.
> Proman er jonno amader 71 i jothesto bole ami mone kori.
>  
> Prithibir onek jaiga te i Army dinkedin ekta voyonkor shobde porinoto hocche.
> Ami asha korbo Amader Prio Gen. Moin U Ahmed obosshoi ei BDR ghotonar todonter pashapashi BDR der nejjo odhikar theke bonchito korar kono ghotona ghotechilo kina ta khuje dekhben.
> (personally Ami Moin U Ahmed ke onek pochondo kori as he is a brave son of Noakhali)
>  
> R karo jodi amar kothar kono jinish opochondo hoye thake sei khetre juktijukto answer ami sobsomoy i pochondo kori.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sumit Awal
>  
> 2009/3/29 khaleda islam <khaleda66@yahoo. com>
>
> Dear Ahsan,
>  
> hmm MANOBOTA -Ekhon Prosno Biddo ?????? kintu keno?? Ekhon sobae takar pichone ghure....... ..... taka hole sob kichu mile........ SONMAN, GARI, BARI, sob kichu -so, MANOBATAR kono dorkar nae.......aache K???????  Sotti Ovag hoe vabchi Kothae jacchi amara din k din......... ....
>  
> Jani na e des r amader kapale ki aache....... ......... ........ta aaj Prosnobodk ?????
>  
> sobae valo thakben onek valo lagae.
>


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[ Noakhali Online Group ] Sumit dont be idiot and shameless

Sumit,

Don't prove repeatedly that you are an idiot.

In reply ti Mr. Ahsan's mail you wrote "Ekjon Police Officer UN mission e jaowar chance paina" I am a police officer. Like the Army, Bangladesh Police is also one of the biggest troops (mainly CIVPOL) contributing country in UN mission. Every year many of police officers  go for UN mission in many countries across the world. I think, right on today (if I am not wrong) Bangladesh is the 3rd biggest police contributing country in the UN Mission. Soon we will be 2nd and in near future we may occupy the 1st position (if our political situation remains good).

And for your knowledge, UN mission is not a privilege. It's a challenge. The mission area is full of danger and anytime we might be killed. Any single step we give, we don't know that we are stepping on soil or mine. And for the army the risk is even more than us. Do you think army people go there for picnic? Only suitable and required people are sent there. Can you perform the duty of a ASP or Captain in country like Congo or Liberia – where peacekeepers are sometime killed or slaughtered and eaten by the local people?

The police (also army) of European countries (also of USA) don't want to go to UN Mission due to risk and danger. Their government forces them to go for compulsory minimum  participation as per UN rule.

Sumit, only a shameless can give such wrong information without knowing. Please don't digress your parents and teachers.

Thanks – Boby

 

Note – Its difficult and irritating to read your bangla in English spelling. Please write in Bangla font or write in English.


 
 
 
 
 
 


From: Sumit Awal <sumit@awal.me>
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:55:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

Mr. Ahsan,

Ekjon Police officer Un mission e jawar chance paina & 1 bochore lakh lakh taka income korar chance paina. tahole kivabe bolen tara Police er chaite kom subidha pai? r ekjon police bahini er je Darun Image (!!) amader desher sadharon manush er kache aapni nije i tader sathe Army er compare korte chacchen? ete ki ami mone korte pari je Army er lok ra Police er moto chicke churi o keno korte pare na sei jonno afsos kore!!

Kono killing e grohon joggo na.. Amra killing dekhte chaina. & ei dhoroner Armed force er jonno kokhono i kono city er kache dhare area dewa i thik na. amar kache khun khun i & shob khun i same. BDR gulo jemon khuni temni Army o kom jaina. aapni amake bollen na 75 theke 82 porjonto joto gulo National leader & Army officer ke khun koreche oigula ki Army er bairer kew eshe khun gulo koreche??
 
BDR er ghotonai eta clear je ete jongi or onno kono deshi karo haat chilo but 76 er por er Army er nijeder officer der nijera khun kora ta te kader ushkani chilo?



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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

 
Dear Sumit,
 
Salam O suvo sakal ! Tomar Msg porechi. Ami mirthe bolbo na. Amder desta ekhon durnite vore gieche. Kothao com, kothaeo beshi. Kintu BDR er Jowanra ja koreche ta prokash korar vasa amar nae. Bujlam tara Nipirito.......tae bole evabe amader valo officerder hotta kore..........Tomar katha jodi ami mani ......
 
1) Tahole ora keno Hottar pasapasi Luttaraj koreche ?
2)  Keno tara Meyeder Ijjot Niye Khela Koreche??????
 
Ki bolbe tumi sumit,,, Pakistanira na hoe 1971 er onno deser lok chilo. Kintu nijer deser lokera ja koreche take ki bolbe tumi.
 
*** Protibad korar vasa aache Onek.
 
Tumi 1971 er katha bolecho. Bujlam. Kintu Se Prekhapot R e Prekhapot k tumi ek kore dekhona. Ota chilo Sadikarer Prosono. Nijer Ostiter Prosno. R Pak Army der sathe amader Army tulona korle vul hobe.
 
R ekta katha amra jani tara Vuturki nicche -KARON TARA DESH PAHARA DICCHE NIJER JIBONER JUKI NIYE.  Amra ki temon kichu korchi.....So tarato sujog ektu beshi pabe.
 
Valo theko sob samaye
 
khaleda
 
--- On Sat, 3/28/09, Sumit Awal <sumit@awal.me> wrote:

From: Sumit Awal <sumit@awal.me>
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers
To: Noakhali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 10:37 PM

Khaleda Apa,
 
Manobota niye kotha bolte gele kintu Bangladesh Army ke niye o kichu kotha bolte hoi. Amar mone hoi eta obosshoi Todonto kora uchit je sotti i ki 29 E Dec. er Election duty korar jonno dewa 7 Cr tk 25 th Feb porjonto BDR jowan der majhe dewa hoi ni naki? & arekta jinish amar mone hoi open secret je Bangladesh Army always i Govt er je kono officer theke beshi sujog subidha vog kore aasche ja kichu kichu khetre Onoitik o.
Example hishabe ami bolte pari Ekjon Army office chaile jekono somoye "On Payment" Gari nite pare cantonment theke jate sei Army officer er dite hoi miles proti 10-15 Tk per km only. jar mane Army officer berate jacche (jehetu On Payment ta Official khetre nite hoina) tate o Ami, apni tar gari vara hishabe minimum 50tk vortuki dicchi. & monthly kotobar On Payment e gari newa jabe seta o temon mana hoi bole ami shunini.
emon onek gulo oshongoti kintu Bangladesh e chole ashche. Jekhane amar desher LPO vukto Non-Govt. teacher ra 3/4 mash por por beton pai ta o oi beton er tk uthate ghush babod proti masher ordhek beton chole jai, jekhane amar deshe Krishok ke tar pawna tin Local MP theke kine nite hoi (as you know Mr. Falu did so last session) sekhane emon shob subidha ekta class er manush ke pete dekhle dinke din khob barbe i.
 
I proshonge aro ektu kotha bole nei.  1971 er Mukti juddher sutropat kotha theke? Pakistan Army & Pakistan Govt. er Sadharon Bangali bonchito, nipirito hote hote ek somoi ei khov dana bedhe suru hoi shadhikar aandolon. Somaje emon boishommo amar mone hoi karo i kammo noi.
 
Boishommo sudhu Khov & Ghrinar i Jonmo dei valobasha jonmo deina.
 
Hoitoba aapnara kew vabchen aami hoitoba BDR jowan ra ja koreche tar somorthone kotha bolchi. Kintu na tader ami somorthon kori na kintu prithibir jekono pranter itihash khuje dekhle i amra dekhte pabo je Nipirito ra jokhon ghure darai tokhon tar porinoti hoi VOYANOK.
Proman er jonno amader 71 i jothesto bole ami mone kori.
 
Prithibir onek jaiga te i Army dinkedin ekta voyonkor shobde porinoto hocche.
Ami asha korbo Amader Prio Gen. Moin U Ahmed obosshoi ei BDR ghotonar todonter pashapashi BDR der nejjo odhikar theke bonchito korar kono ghotona ghotechilo kina ta khuje dekhben.
(personally Ami Moin U Ahmed ke onek pochondo kori as he is a brave son of Noakhali)
 
R karo jodi amar kothar kono jinish opochondo hoye thake sei khetre juktijukto answer ami sobsomoy i pochondo kori.
 
 
Regards,
Sumit Awal
 
2009/3/29 khaleda islam <khaleda66@yahoo. com>

Dear Ahsan,
 
hmm MANOBOTA -Ekhon Prosno Biddo ?????? kintu keno?? Ekhon sobae takar pichone ghure....... ..... taka hole sob kichu mile........ SONMAN, GARI, BARI, sob kichu -so, MANOBATAR kono dorkar nae.......aache K???????  Sotti Ovag hoe vabchi Kothae jacchi amara din k din......... ....
 
Jani na e des r amader kapale ki aache....... ......... ........ta aaj Prosnobodk ?????
 
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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit

Nijhum bhai,

BHai Modaretor or group er lead dewa typer kono kichute i ami kokhono i khub ekta monojogi chilam na (sorry to say). just kew ekjon jodi help kore then ami nije i amar desher manush er sathe kotha majhe majhe golpo korte parbo eta vebe i sudhu group e majhe majhe email kora. ekhane mod ship or leading er kono kichu ontoto ami kokhono vabini.

vai sob war i political kono na kono uddesshe hoi. aajke Iraq ke US army dhongsho kore shob kichu sesh kore dilo thn ekhon Iraq chere chole jawa o suru korche.. eta ki political karone hoinai?
US Army 71 e Bangladesh er bipokkhe Pakistan ke help koreche & jokhon Pakistan war here gelo tokhon sujog bujhe vol palte fello eita ki political karone koreni? so aapne desher jekono crysis niye kotha bolen oikhane Politial crysis dekhte paben i paben.

Pakistan Army Bangladesher joto jon Army officer mereche tar chaite beshi Army officer moreche 76-82 amole.

Sekhane tara ki nijeder bhai der blood diye nijera holi or doll uthshob kheleni?

Ami bolechi 71 eer 15th Feb er killing & 25 Feb er killing same typer hoyeche & kono killing ke i amra (boyoshe jara young) support kori na.

& Army officer der vaab murti last 1/2 yrz e koto tuku komeche ta ekta jorip korle i aapni o bujhte parben.

Ami aapnake ektu request korte chai aapni doya kore ektu ei related shob lekha gulo pore thn bujhe dekhun ami ki bolechi.

apnar subidhar jonno ami just ekta msg copy korchi ei msg e

Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:19 am

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Noakhali/message/1274

BDR er killing obossoi amader deshe 15 e Dec er kotha mone koriye dei. Emon hottakando amader desher sadharon BDR soldiar der pokkhe shahosh howar kotha na. ete kara indon diyeche.. ki uddesshe diyeche. Govt. er & Bangladesher vabmurti sara bissher kache kaloshito korar ei prochesta kader seta dekhar bishoy. Amar personal opinion ete Banijjik vabe amader desh ke 100 bochor pichiye dewar e kono ek prochesta chilo eito. sei khetre hote pare ete Asia er (Specially India, China, Pakistan) kono haat chilo kina ta o dekhar bishoy ache bole amar mone hoi.

Onek age ekta kotha shuntam, Pakistani bahini naki Bangladsher progoti ke thamiye dite i naki 15 e Dec hazar hazar Buddhijibi ke hotta korechilo. Mujib er Hottar bishoye ami kichu bolte chaina but 71 poroborti te 4 National leader ke khun kora ta o temon i ekta prochesta chilo bole amar dharona.

Amader desher Goyenda Bibhag ke aro dhele shajano sathe sathe 25th Feb er somoye Govt er Goyenda songsha te thaka shob officer der o etto boro ekta ghotona ter napawar jonno bichar er mukhomukho kora uchit bole amar monehoi.
Jani na ami ja bolchi tar sathe shobai ekmot hoben kina tobe abar emon ghotar jate na hoi tate Govt. er & shob bahini ke aro beshi active howar jonno amader prananto chesta korte hobe.

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

Mr. Ahsan,

Ekjon Police officer Un mission e jawar chance paina & 1 bochore lakh lakh taka income korar chance paina. tahole kivabe bolen tara Police er chaite kom subidha pai? r ekjon police bahini er je Darun Image (!!) amader desher sadharon manush er kache aapni nije i tader sathe Army er compare korte chacchen? ete ki ami mone korte pari je Army er lok ra Police er moto chicke churi o keno korte pare na sei jonno afsos kore!!

Kono killing e grohon joggo na.. Amra killing dekhte chaina. & ei dhoroner Armed force er jonno kokhono i kono city er kache dhare area dewa i thik na. amar kache khun khun i & shob khun i same. BDR gulo jemon khuni temni Army o kom jaina. aapni amake bollen na 75 theke 82 porjonto joto gulo National leader & Army officer ke khun koreche oigula ki Army er bairer kew eshe khun gulo koreche??
 
BDR er ghotonai eta clear je ete jongi or onno kono deshi karo haat chilo but 76 er por er Army er nijeder officer der nijera khun kora ta te kader ushkani chilo?


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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit

Sumit,

You are a young smart and educated man. Most importantly you an IT expert (I believe). You have said something that doesn't commensurate with your education level.  We are tired of hearing this type of meaningless political discussion. I only tried to say on two things:

(1)    You must not compare Bangladesh Army with the Pakistan Army of 1971.

(2)     No logic justifies the brutal killing of so many officers..

You understand simple English? Yes, that's what I wanted to say. But unfortunately you did both the things. You compared BD Army with Pak Army of 1971 and also justified the killing. Didn't you do that?

In addition, you have initiated an unnecessary political discussion. We all know, this type of discussion has got no end. However, by doing so you have made yourself controversial. In the next mails many member will support you and many will be criticizing you. But as moderator of a group, you should have been neutral. A moderator is just like a leader – leading from the front. Now ask yourself, are you in the front where there are many people of different school of thoughts? Or you have sidelined yourself in narrow political spectrum?

However, it seems to me that you are happy about BDR incident. Sumit, there is no pride of becoming collaborator of killer. So, it's meaningless for me to continue any more discussion with you.

Thanks & Regards to All.

Good Bye

Nil Olin

 

 

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit

Sumit,

You are a young smart and educated man. Most importantly you are an IT expert (I believe). You have said something that doesn't commensurate with your education level.  We are tired of hearing this type of meaningless political discussion. I only tried to say on two things:

(1)    You must not compare Bangladesh Army with the Pakistan Army of 1971.

(2)     No logic justifies the brutal killing of so many officers.

You understand simple English? Yes, that's what I wanted to say. But unfortunately you did both the things. You compared BD Army with Pak Army of 1971 and also justified the killing. Didn't you do that?

In addition, you have initiated an unnecessary political discussion. We all know, this type of discussion has got no end. However, by doing so you have made yourself controversial. In the next mails many member will support you and many will be criticizing you.. But as moderator (ex) of a group, you should have been neutral. A moderator is just like a leader – leading from the front. Now ask yourself, are you in the front where there are many people of different school of thoughts? Or you have sidelined yourself in narrow political spectrum?

However, it seems to me that you are happy about BDR incident. Sumit, there is no pride of becoming collaborator of killer. So, it's meaningless for me to continue any more discussion with you.

Thanks & Regards to All

Good Bye

Nil Olin
 

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Sumit Awal <sumit@awal.me> wrote:

From: Sumit Awal <sumit@awal.me>
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit
To: Noakhali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 8:30 PM

Nijhum,
 
1st aapni na bujhe i ans likhechen dekhe obak hocchi & then well G.. Shakil er wife k Airport costumes challange korechilo eta & 7 Cr. tk Election er time duty er jonno pawa taka keno 25th of Feb porjonto BDR er normal member ra paini setar answer ki khujechen? Army (world er maximum desher) always Khomota lovi hoi tar last proman amader desher jonmer por theke ei porjonto only 18/20 yrz Gonotontro chilo baki somoi chilo hoi jor kore khomota dokhol kora kew or tader toiry KINGS party. ami ki vul bolchi?
 
Amar joddur mone hoi Op. Daal Bhat e BDR member ra je kaaj koreche tate Monitoring e 90% chilo Army officer. Apni bolen ei bishoy ta ke Media theke & jonogon theke keno dhama-chapa dewa holo? aaj porjonto amar mone hoi na amader bortoman Army chief chara emon kono army chief chilo je KHOMOTA LOVI chilo na.  1971 er kotha bolchen? Bangladesher itihasher shob chaite boro oghoton or ghirnno kaaj gulo kara koreche>?
 
Sheikh Mujib er 6/7 bochorer chele ke kara mereche? ai or apni??
Sheikh Mujib or Mowlana Vashani ke chara Shadhinota Ondolon kokhono i possible howar kotha na. Reason? bhai re joti 7 koti manush Pagol er moto sudhu karo ekta Vashone pagol hoye ja kichu ache ta niye jhapiye na porto then tokhon kar 5,000 Army officer Pura desh ke 9 mash to durer kotha 9 bochore o shadhin hoto bole amar mone hoi na. aapnar mone hoi?? ekbar valo kore vebe dekhun & ans din.
 
Thn ashi tader nijeder senior der kotha. 6 bochore total more thn 20 bar kuu koreche & nijeder senior officer, nijeder bhai der khun koreche emon ghotona ghoteche minimum 150.
Oi 150 er family er sathe ki ki koreche ta to amra jani na.. jodi oi somoi kar shob shotto ber hoye ashto thn hoito aro onek kichu bola jeto.
 
Emon ki ora tader i ek shomoyer Chief Army Officer Zia ur Rahman ke o khun koreche & emon vabe i khun koreche je shunechi Ziaur Rahman er body theke naki tar Matha alada kore dewar pashapashi tar body eto i chinno vinno korechilo je tar body kaw ke dekhte dewa hoini. 
 
HUH 30 Years Bangladesh Army er jonno Unmader moto khete Zia emon mrittu Gift peyechen.
 
Col. Taher er moto ekjon shahoshi & intelligent officer ke Fashi Dewa hoyechilo just bcuz uni Sipahi Biplobe Lead diyechilen. & tar chaite o mojar ekta bepar chilo. Col. Taher Bidroho kore Major Zia ke bondi dosha theke Mukto kore take Bangladesher haal dhorar jonno khomota grohon korte request koren, othocho pore Major Zia mukto hon thik i kintu Odrissho kono karone Col. Taher ke bibabichar e fashi dewa hoi!
 
Bangladesh Army er emon onek choritro i ektu porar chesta korle i aapni bivonno jaiga theke pore jene nite parben. amar dukkho aapni ei deshe theke o ei desher emon hazaro itihash janen na or jene o na janar vaan koren.
 
 
Are bhai aapni jei Army er kotha bolchen.. vule jacchen keno jei Army 71 e juddhe birer moto lorechilo tara i pore shadhinota birodhi circle er sathe mishe khomotar lobhe 2 jon President ke khun korechen & 10 bochor soiracharer vumikai deshe lutpat chaliechen.
 
Ekhono Army officer ra emon i je jekhane Senior officer er samne uccho-shore kotha bola kono Army rules e oporash sekhane 27th Feb te Army er onek Officer i Bangladesh er bortomar Prime Minister ke CHAGOL & Bortomar Army chief Moin U Ahmed ke Awami league  er chamcha bole mic e gali dite o chinta kore nai je unara 2 jon Bangladesh er chobchaite shommanito duiti post er odhikari.
 
 
Nijhim amar kothai pawa vul gulu dhoriye dite vulben na plzz.
 
Sumit
 


 
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo. com> wrote:
Dear Sumit,
Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).
The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971.. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?
 
Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 
Note
Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers). Nil Olin




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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Sumit & All (Subject- Shame on You ...!!!)

Dear Mr Nipu/ Mr. Nijhum
 
I hope you got my answer.
 
Hope i will get answer from your too.
 
Regards,
 
Sumit

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The mail below is the mail of Nil Olin. He has some problem with the net and could not connect with the group. I am sending this on his behalf... Nipu.
 
 
 
 

Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

Note

Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers).

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Nijhum,
 
Apni aro ekta jinish vule jacchen.. BDR er againist e Army er gunogan gaichen shei BRD o kintu 1971 o oneek shahosh er sathe juddho korechen & amar mone hoi L. Nayek Ruhul Amir er naam aapni vule gechen.. shei 1971 shale birer moto juddhu kora BDR Bahinir member ra i kintu 25th er Feb te ekadhik Army Officer er family member der dhorshoner sathe jorito chilo.. & maybe 49 top ranked Army Officer ke khun kore i khanto hoini khun kore karo body puriye feleche & karo body drain e fele dichi & kichu body ek sathe ekta gorte pute diyeche.. amar mone hoi eishob kintu 1971 er Pakistan Army er kander tulonai kono ongshe kom noi & oita chilo 1971 othocho eta 21st century .. 21 century te emon  borbor kaaj r kothaw hoyeche kina tate amar sondeho ache. tahole bolun 1971 e jei BDR eto shahosher sathe pakistan army er sathe juddhe nemechilo taderke i aj Pakistan army er chehara te i sposto dekha jacche. & Bangladesh Army o emon kando kokhono koreni eta kew bisshas korbe bole amar mone hoina.
 
Bhai Onnaye hoito shob officer direct jorito chilo na but onnai dekhe chup thaka or onno shojjho kora o onnai karir soman oporadh. & ami jei kotha gulo bollam tar sei ghotona gulote Maximum Army officer i konona kono vabe oporadhi. kew koreche, kew dekheche kintu badha deini, kew dekhe sudhu hesheche..
 
 
tai amar mon bole je sudhu BDR ke na emon oshontosh jeno na hoi tai Govt er shob section e i change ana dorkar & Army officer derke dewa ONOITIK shubidha gulo (jeigulor jonno Govt ke okarone vortuki dite hoi) sei shob subidha rash kora uchit.
 
 
Regards,
 
Sumit
 
 


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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit

Nijhum,
 
1st aapni na bujhe i ans likhechen dekhe obak hocchi & then well G. Shakil er wife k Airport costumes challange korechilo eta & 7 Cr. tk Election er time duty er jonno pawa taka keno 25th of Feb porjonto BDR er normal member ra paini setar answer ki khujechen? Army (world er maximum desher) always Khomota lovi hoi tar last proman amader desher jonmer por theke ei porjonto only 18/20 yrz Gonotontro chilo baki somoi chilo hoi jor kore khomota dokhol kora kew or tader toiry KINGS party. ami ki vul bolchi?
 
Amar joddur mone hoi Op. Daal Bhat e BDR member ra je kaaj koreche tate Monitoring e 90% chilo Army officer. Apni bolen ei bishoy ta ke Media theke & jonogon theke keno dhama-chapa dewa holo? aaj porjonto amar mone hoi na amader bortoman Army chief chara emon kono army chief chilo je KHOMOTA LOVI chilo na.  1971 er kotha bolchen? Bangladesher itihasher shob chaite boro oghoton or ghirnno kaaj gulo kara koreche>?
 
Sheikh Mujib er 6/7 bochorer chele ke kara mereche? ai or apni??
Sheikh Mujib or Mowlana Vashani ke chara Shadhinota Ondolon kokhono i possible howar kotha na. Reason? bhai re joti 7 koti manush Pagol er moto sudhu karo ekta Vashone pagol hoye ja kichu ache ta niye jhapiye na porto then tokhon kar 5,000 Army officer Pura desh ke 9 mash to durer kotha 9 bochore o shadhin hoto bole amar mone hoi na. aapnar mone hoi?? ekbar valo kore vebe dekhun & ans din.
 
Thn ashi tader nijeder senior der kotha. 6 bochore total more thn 20 bar kuu koreche & nijeder senior officer, nijeder bhai der khun koreche emon ghotona ghoteche minimum 150.
Oi 150 er family er sathe ki ki koreche ta to amra jani na.. jodi oi somoi kar shob shotto ber hoye ashto thn hoito aro onek kichu bola jeto.
 
Emon ki ora tader i ek shomoyer Chief Army Officer Zia ur Rahman ke o khun koreche & emon vabe i khun koreche je shunechi Ziaur Rahman er body theke naki tar Matha alada kore dewar pashapashi tar body eto i chinno vinno korechilo je tar body kaw ke dekhte dewa hoini. 
 
HUH 30 Years Bangladesh Army er jonno Unmader moto khete Zia emon mrittu Gift peyechen.
 
Col. Taher er moto ekjon shahoshi & intelligent officer ke Fashi Dewa hoyechilo just bcuz uni Sipahi Biplobe Lead diyechilen. & tar chaite o mojar ekta bepar chilo. Col. Taher Bidroho kore Major Zia ke bondi dosha theke Mukto kore take Bangladesher haal dhorar jonno khomota grohon korte request koren, othocho pore Major Zia mukto hon thik i kintu Odrissho kono karone Col. Taher ke bibabichar e fashi dewa hoi!
 
Bangladesh Army er emon onek choritro i ektu porar chesta korle i aapni bivonno jaiga theke pore jene nite parben. amar dukkho aapni ei deshe theke o ei desher emon hazaro itihash janen na or jene o na janar vaan koren.
 
 
Are bhai aapni jei Army er kotha bolchen.. vule jacchen keno jei Army 71 e juddhe birer moto lorechilo tara i pore shadhinota birodhi circle er sathe mishe khomotar lobhe 2 jon President ke khun korechen & 10 bochor soiracharer vumikai deshe lutpat chaliechen.
 
Ekhono Army officer ra emon i je jekhane Senior officer er samne uccho-shore kotha bola kono Army rules e oporash sekhane 27th Feb te Army er onek Officer i Bangladesh er bortomar Prime Minister ke CHAGOL & Bortomar Army chief Moin U Ahmed ke Awami league  er chamcha bole mic e gali dite o chinta kore nai je unara 2 jon Bangladesh er chobchaite shommanito duiti post er odhikari.
 
 
Nijhim amar kothai pawa vul gulu dhoriye dite vulben na plzz.
 
Sumit
 


 
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Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

 

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

Note

Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers). Nil Olin




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 Dear All,
The mail below is the mail of Nil Olin. He has some problem with the net and could not connect with the group. I am sending this on his behalf... Nipu.
 
 
 
 

Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

Note

Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers).

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Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

 

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

Note

Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers). Nil Olin




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Dear Mr Sumit,

with all respect to u, I feel to say something. Army or military is not to be compared with any of the service/profession, coz that is of special type. ami janina apni kothai asen, but I'm sure, other than military service, nobody joins his/her service by taking OATH that he/she will be ready to face a bullet/ give the life anytime....anywhere.....WITHOUT ANY QUESTION. it doesn't matter whether he is an officer or soldier. they remain ready at all times to give their life for the nation. jokhon crisis hoy, tokhon kintu military'r member rai nijer family....bhai....bon fele mrittyur mukhe egiye jai, ar baki general people ra kintu nijer family shamlaite ar polaite besto hoiya pore. so what for we'll sacrifice our life....family???

u talked abt special facillities. actually I was smiling while reading this comment and thinking that, "Nodir epar kohe ccharia nisshash..........". for ur kind info, officers can avail transport facility once a week (on payment), NOT ANYTIME (eita mama barir moa na re bhai) and for 4 hrs. and most of the time, officers below the rank of Major doesn't get that chance due to shortage of vehicle. do u know the status of a Major according to Warrant of Precedence???? I think no. he is equivallent to Deputy Secy(DS)....SP of Police. do u know what transport facility a DS of SP gets?????? any police officer, whether he is an ASP, Sr ASP, Addl SP (these 3 are Junior to Major) or SP gets Full time vehicle to use for any purpose (though there is limits of KM but I've not seen anyone following that). in compare to that, a major is using an on payment transport for 4 hrs in a week.........which u ppl can't tolerate. see the fun:D. let alone other facilities which Police officers and others get but Military officer doesn't get. like a DS or UNO or SP gets a Banglow type/or big house to reside whereas Army officer gets an old quarter which also have acute shortage and many officers had to rent house. an UNO, SP gets Mali, cook, and other helping hands all the time but an army officer, if he is not very senior (level of Addl Secy, DIG) doesn't get that. there are many more. but kakossho poribedon kore to lav nai, bahir theke onek kisui chakochikkyomoy mone hoy, ja dekhe superficial comment amra bangali ra valoi kore thaki.

 I think shortly u'll say that military officer and soldiers should have same status, same salary,.....same facility....bla bla bla,  because all are human and u ppl are very much humanitarian. do u know that officers take their food in mess on payment? per day for 3 meals, each have to pay on an average 150 Tk? whereas the soldiers are getting those food for free???? actually lot many logics i can site but I thing those will be ORONNE RODON. ami ahsole murkher moto emon uncomparable matter nia compare korte chai na.......ota bokader kaaj.

shotti selukas. u have compared BDR incident with thge reason of our liberation war. yeah, it can be comparable in a way that this BDR incident was far more brutal than that of liberation war.

some 7 crore jei takar kotha apni ullekh korecchen, do u actually know what is the purpose of those and how they were spend. apnar dharona mote oigula mone hoy amla/police na onnoder moto army officer-e pete dhukecche. he he......amar ashole eishob immatured kothabarta pore hashi pacche. kharan ektu haisha loi.

ajke potrikai porlam, BDR-er 4 jon soldier mara jaowai human rights besh mukhiye utthecce, tara oi mrittyur karon jaante chai (jekhane oi karongula......ja shavabik, koyekbar-i bola hoyese). I think apnader moto jara bhabe, tarai HR -er ei dabi ke shagoto janaben.....support korben. kothai cchilo apnader ei human rights jokhon nirostro brilliant armi officer der shoshosro hayenara nirmombhabe kach theke gulo korese? family'r upor raat-birate pashobik nirjaton chalaise??? koi kono HR to oi shomoy shocchar hoy nai? ashole jar ma-bon nirjatito hoy, jar bhai-bap mara jai shei bojhe. onader to kokhono hoy nai tai bechara-ra emon shishushulov kotha bole arki!!!:)

juddhe ba crisis-e shobar age military der pattthano hoy, do u think that only soldiers go there and officers doesn't? ar jokhon tara jai, tokhon tader family-ke ke nirapotta dibe?? apni??? huh!! do u think that militay and other profession is same??
 
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