Wednesday, December 5, 2007

Re: [greater_noakhali] Thanks for such well thought article

asadaran abiggata.........calia jan

Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Sir,
I love nizumdip, thats why I am nizumdip.
 
Please visit nizumdip in a full moon night during next spring with some of your friends. You may also take two persons from forest department. Take some food stuff.
Take a boat, go inside the forest. Make a halt in the middle of the forest. Have some chit-chat, gossip, music, food - - - - - Enjoy the beauty of moon in the water and forest. Seeing deers will be a added amusement............ At late night you may sleep for a while.......
Come back to the forest rest house in the mornig.......... Take hot  rice with hilsha fish fry and local dal...........................
 
 
 
done........?
 
 
 
 
 
You are nizumdip........
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Afsar Uddin <uddinhk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
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>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
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Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791

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