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Re: [greater_noakhali] Hello Noakhailla ...!this is very special....something!

awesome ...keep it up..

Sarwar Rana <sjrana2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi....
I am Sarwar Jahan Rana From Rajshahi & RU.
..and also a from Great district of bangladesh named Feni belongs to Greater Noakhali.
Now my study on going on MBA at FINACE & BANKING at RU.
..and also the rajshahi divisional correspondent of www.noakhaliweb.com.bd
Plz nock our territorial site at least once in a weeek and read my news from RAJSHHI.
,...plz comments on those by(sjrana@noakhaliweb.com.bd or sjr007@gmail.com )
...and also feel proud to be a Noakhailla as like as me and Khaled Saifullah!.
So,plz keep in touch in the era of Nokhailla!
 
With the best regards....
 
RaNa
01911662364
01818829009


Afsar Uddin <uddinhk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
=== message truncated ===

Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791

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Re: [greater_noakhali] Thanks for such well thought article

asadaran abiggata.........calia jan

Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Sir,
I love nizumdip, thats why I am nizumdip.
 
Please visit nizumdip in a full moon night during next spring with some of your friends. You may also take two persons from forest department. Take some food stuff.
Take a boat, go inside the forest. Make a halt in the middle of the forest. Have some chit-chat, gossip, music, food - - - - - Enjoy the beauty of moon in the water and forest. Seeing deers will be a added amusement............ At late night you may sleep for a while.......
Come back to the forest rest house in the mornig.......... Take hot  rice with hilsha fish fry and local dal...........................
 
 
 
done........?
 
 
 
 
 
You are nizumdip........
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Afsar Uddin <uddinhk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
=== message truncated ===

Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Fwd: [Bafi] Cyclone Sidr Relief Fund

Dear Nobo,
 
thanks for your opinion and we are proudly want to tell you that we already took some Real step for that.
Maybe maximum friends of ours doesnt know but we started working on sevaral website and already started brodcasting a website named http://www.noakhali.org where we will serv voluntary works for Social organizations of noakhali to make a better web community and DATA base which maybe will brodcast many features not only about Cyclone but health, agricultural, cultural and all other development related works. We are also will try our best to present a tourism related area to highlight Nijhum Dip, Char, Char-bata forest.
Hope Siraj bhai will able to say some more details about our Plan of Action.
 
Sumit Awal

 
On 11/20/07, Nabo Chowdhury <nabo_aug26@yahoo.com> wrote:
We can proceed on through various voluntary OPTIONS to serve
our beloved NOAKHALI which is corner stone of our great proud:
 
Such as:
 
01: We can make a virtual office - web based
02: We can create an orgqnisation like NGO
03: We can make a database of our members
     with name, professional identity location etc.
04: Campaign for more member collection out of yahho.
 
Dashing always.
 
nobo 


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From: "The Bangladeshi-American Foundation, Inc." <probashiusa98@hotmail.com >
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:37:35 +0000
Subject: [Bafi] Cyclone Sidr Relief Fund

PRESS RELEASE – Immediate Release

Contact: Dr. Badrul Haque
Tel. 301 216 9656

Mr. Wahed Hossaini
703 451 7942

Washington DC - November 16, 2007: The Bangladeshi-American Foundation, Inc. (BAFI) expresses deep sorrow at the loss of life and properties from the ferocious Cyclone Sidr that swept across the low-lying watery edges of southern Bangladesh late Thursday, downing trees, crashing mobile telephone towers and sweeping away thousands of homes. Initial estimate of the death toll is over 280, but is expected to rise several folds.

BAFI appeals for support to help those who need our help most at this tragic time in their life. As in the past, we will work through well-known NGOs in Bangladesh to provide relief and medium term help including support for construction of more cyclone shelters in the low-lying areas of Bangladesh.

For US residents, all donations are tax-deductible as permitted by the Internal Revenue Code.

We urge you to contribute whatever you can by using the Paypal at BAFI Store for Cyclone Sidr Relief Fund athttp://bafi.org/cgi-bin/online/storepro.php

Alternatively, write your check to BAFI and write "Cyclone Sidr Relief Fund" on the memo line and mail it to:
C/o Mr. Wahed Hossaini
Chair, BAFI Bangladesh Development Fund
7008 Bethnal Ct
Springfield, VA 22150
USA

Post-script: Due to a system error, this posting was not released on Nov. 16th. We will issue another Press Release with specifics on each and everyone of you can help to raise funds to help those who need our support now. In the meantime, we urge you to donate online so that we can transfer funds quickly to meet the immediate needs for relief and rehabilitation.


Messages released in this Listserver reflect solely the views of the authors. The Listserver is independently moderated by Dr. Badrul Haque and does not reflect the views of the members or Trustees of the Bangladeshi-American Foundation, Inc. ( www.bafi.org).

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Re: [greater_noakhali] Thanks for such well thought article

Dear Sir,
I love nizumdip, thats why I am nizumdip.
 
Please visit nizumdip in a full moon night during next spring with some of your friends. You may also take two persons from forest department. Take some food stuff.
Take a boat, go inside the forest. Make a halt in the middle of the forest. Have some chit-chat, gossip, music, food - - - - - Enjoy the beauty of moon in the water and forest. Seeing deers will be a added amusement............ At late night you may sleep for a while.......
Come back to the forest rest house in the mornig.......... Take hot  rice with hilsha fish fry and local dal...........................
 
 
 
done........?
 
 
 
 
 
You are nizumdip........
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Afsar Uddin <uddinhk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
=== message truncated ===

Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791

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[ Noakhali Online Group ] Volunteers for Sahana Project

Most of you know about the Open Source Disaster Management Software
Sahana. Sahana was built immediate after the Tsunami in 2004 December
and readily became the de-facto DMT in different countries.

www.sahana.lk
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahana_FOSS_Disaster_Management_System

Recently some of our alumni in IBM tooks an inititive to introduce
sahana in BD. With the coordination from Local IBM Dealer, Thakral BD
and its CTO Mr Shahjaman Majumder, Bir Protik, they quickly mobilize
the following resources.

1. A local server donated by Thakral to Disaster Management Bureue
2. 5 persons from US IBM and 2 person from Lankan Software Foundation
to setup this server
3. One server donated by IBM USA for AFD.
4. Two Volunteer from BUET to work at DMB

Then we have had a meeting with the team. Now to continue this effort
and to do some customization and localization we need your help.

We need 20+ Volunteer to initially support this systems. The
volunteers will have to do the following-

1. Maintaining the Sahana system at DMB, for the time being
2. Understand thooughly the architecture of Sahana
3. Do some Customization
4. Documented the process of maintaining the systems
and
5. Capacited the DMB personnel for the system maintenance and operation.

All the volunteer will have to work initially at DMB, Mohakhali, Dhaka
and after sometimes, some of them will have to move to Barisal where
the second system will be set-up.

The volunteers has to give some amount of time daily.

Those who have good foundation on Linux based systems, have some
exposure to PHP will be preferred.

Please note that this is an humanitarian task and we need only VOLUNTEERs.

Thos who are interested to join this volunterism, please mail a short
cv along with your availability for the taks to sahana@bdosn.org

Thanking you and hope that with your help we can make this happen in
Bangladesh

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[greater_noakhali] Hello Noakhailla ...!this is very special....something!

hi....
I am Sarwar Jahan Rana From Rajshahi & RU.
..and also a from Great district of bangladesh named Feni belongs to Greater Noakhali.
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..and also the rajshahi divisional correspondent of www.noakhaliweb.com.bd
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,...plz comments on those by(sjrana@noakhaliweb.com.bd or sjr007@gmail.com )
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So,plz keep in touch in the era of Nokhailla!
 
With the best regards....
 
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Afsar Uddin <uddinhk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
=== message truncated ===

Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791

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[greater_noakhali] Thanks for such well thought article

Why you are using the nizumdip as yahoo ID? Are you
from nizumdip??

Thanks!
Afsar

--- Nil Olin <nizumdip@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for sending such a well though article.
>
> Is Gen 71 is the forum commonly known as 'projonmo
> ekattor'?
> So long I had an idea that 'projonmo ekattor' is a
> pet organization created by indian intillegence like
> many other organizations available in Bangladesh.
> But after reading this articale, my idea has been
> changed a lot....
>
> Time has come, we have to think alternative of
> india. specially regarding import of food grains
> (mostly rice). Chaina, Burma, Vietnam. Laos,
> Combodia and other countries at the east can be our
> alternative destinations. Believe it or not, the
> indian business men are importing rice from the
> above said countries and exporting those to African
> countries. Even sometimes those are being sent to
> Bangladesh ( of course, of poor quality & spoiled
> lot).
>
> None will help us if we dont help ourselves. India
> wants us to remain busy with 1971 and bite each
> other......
>
>
> A poor Bangladeshi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ariful Zobayer <ariful_zobayer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hmm
>
> M Rahman <m.rahman76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:54:27 AM
> Subject: Fw: Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The
> irony of India's offer to export rice to BD
>
>
> Is this another Sardarji Joke? - The irony
> of India 's offer to export rice to BD and playing a
> good man
> It is outrageous to observe that India would play
> foul even with trade.
>
> There is no question that Bangladesh is going
> through crisis - from political, to economical, to
> social and now natural calamities. The minimum that
> Bangladesh can expect from its neighbors is to be a
> responsible player, if not playing fair. And that
> applies to India much more than any other players in
> the region, since we share a long border. Our
> problem is there problem and their problem is ours.
> We don't get to choose our mutual problems - which
> is the fact when two countries share a common
> border.
>
> However, India has been showing its incapacity to
> play responsible, let alone fair.
>
> We wrote once about India offer to export
> electricity from the west side of Bangladesh , while
> they are trying to overplay our energy need by not
> allowing Myanmar to export its gas to us. Rather,
> India is asking Bangladesh for a pipeline that runs
> through Bangladesh . So, in short, India wants to
> bring gas from Myanmar to Western part of India
> through Bangladesh and then export to power to Dhaka
> ? How about taking those gas to the seven sisters
> state on the eastern side and use that energy for
> development of that part of India (which solves many
> of the problems of people of those states) and if
> you have some extra, Bangladesh will be happy to buy
> electricity from India . Or if the centre in India
> is so biased against the seven sisters states, let
> us import the gas to Bangladeshi grid. We pay for
> them. If Indian companies holds share of those
> Myanmar companies, India gets a the price. It does
> make sense. But the Sardarji joke will be when they
> want to take the gas through
> us and then produce the electricity and then sell
> it to us. How the economics does works here? The
> more weird part is that India is not only stopping
> the seven sisters states to export things to
> Bangladesh , but it is stopping Nepal to export
> hydro-electric power to us, too. Bangladesh
> government should raise a fund to invest in Nepal 's
> hydro-electric power plants, just like it is
> planning to invest in Myanmar in power and
> agriculture related industries.
>
> The latest item on the list of jokes is rice
> export.
>
> India has been trying to say that they are having
> trouble with their own market, so they ordered to
> stop rice export to Bangladesh . However, the
> perception in Bangladesh is different - everybody
> knows what that is. Now, Sardarji's envoy comes to
> visit the cyclone affected areas and offer to export
> 5 lacs tons of rice. Wow! Isn't it so great of India
> ? That's what they are trying to engineer - at the
> cost of fair market practice - at the cost of
> goodwill. You do not engineer a "WOW" while you are
> a responsible partner.
>
> We know what you are thinking - you are probably
> inclined to say that we are just usual skeptics who
> see foul play in India 's actions and Pakistan 's
> action. Well, quiet not. These two regional foul
> players are irresponsible to their own people - it
> has been proven again and again. If we list things,
> your days will be over while reading that list.
> Rather, look at the latest example.
>
> Both India and Pakistan is competing between them
> to export rice to Iran ! EXPORT? Are you sure that
> it's not IMPORT? Because, they are supposedly having
> trouble with rice and other cereal products so they
> stopped selling rice to Bangladesh . Well, you
> should see for yourself. Following are three
> headlines from three different countries, published
> within last two days. For details, look at the
> bottom of the article:
>
> " India gains as Pakistan loses Iranian rice
> market"
>
> "Pak loses Iran rice market, India gains ground"
>
> " Pakistan losing Iranian rice market to India "
>
> Indians now days have learned to manipulate
> information well. But this cat couldn't be kept
> within. Read the following three items.
>
> A note to notice that Pakis are also guilty. But
> nobody expect them to be responsible players - the
> world knows that. But the world is coming to realize
> the true Indian face day by day.
>
> Actually, we should not be surprised. Any nation
> who tries to build weapons of destruction while they
> keep their own people unfed, they can not be
> responsible players. The earlier people of those
> nations realize that, the better.
>
> Coming back to the topic of today, so when you
> read this three items and take a note of the show
> that India is trying to project by being the good
> man, what do you say?
>
> Is this the real India ? Or is it just the case
> that the worse of India is controlling their policy
> now days. Certainly, every nation has different
> forces within. We have our bad elements too.
>
> The real issue is to recognize what is real and
> what is not. The current forces in power in India
> are not the force that the people should WOW. If
> not, then which ones? The BJP? They are not either.
> Then whom? Well, that is for Indians to find out. As
> far as policies are concerned in Dhaka , it should
> take stock of the realities. There might be some who
> would suggest considering going to arbitration with
> world trade bodies, WTO or UN, etc. Our bad elements
> may suggest more extreme things. But what we would
> like to emphasize that we should realize that we do
> not get to pick our neighbor, as we get to pick our
> friends. Now, if a neighbor is a friend that's good.
> But if not, what can you do? Just be a responsible
> neighbor and hope that they will learn behave. In
> addition, we should also make policies that would
> embolden the friendlier forces within their society.
> Or rather correctly, hope that better elements of
> their society will be empowered so that the evil
> will not rule
> in policymaking, people will force them to behave.
> In the meantime, Dhaka should make sure that it
> makes attempt to include the bordering Indian states
> within its policy framework when considering
> economic policies. Because, in the long run, we live
> in a single market. As we grow stronger, we should
> make sure our neighbors gets a good share too.
> That's the responsible thing to do. If the state is
> not friendly, make immigration policies and labour
> laws in a way that helps the people in the
> neighboring regions.
>
>
> If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your
> reading time, please forward it to others. If you
> have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional
> media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear
> to the journalists and news editors of the
> electronic
=== message truncated ===


Dr. Mohammad Afsar Uddin
Research Fellow
Electronic Engineering Department
City University of Hong Kong
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
Phone: 852-2784 4283
Fax:852-2788 7791


____________________________________________________________________________________
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